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 Archetypes that need to stop getting support

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Lelouch Lamperouge
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PostSubject: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:17 pm

We all know Konami is dumb, and loves getting archetypes everyone hate non-stop support. I'm sick and tired that every month i find new Bujin and Lightsworn support. I'm gonna have reason to why this is just plain dumb.
Bujins:
Every single bujin players uses the exact same build, with the expect ion of a few NON-Bujin cards, yet I always see a new Bujin or Bujiniki monster hit dn once a month(Usually more). This deck has already hit its peak and doesn't need anymore SPECIFIC support for at least a format or 2.

Lightsworns:
This deck is every noobs wet dream. I can just play solar recharge and ryko over and over again and get a 3000 beater that nukes the field!? And its at 3!? What i can summon them as many times as I want per turn!? Woah i'll just net deck this deck and just nuke my opponents field every turn until he looses all his Lp. Then when i Sack to win I'll talk trash and act like no one can beat me on dn! Oh and when I do loose because they stopped my jd or beat me before i can summon my JD, i'll just say i got a bad hand since I couldn't just nuke his field for the win.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:31 pm

That's actually true Lelouche, I played Lightsworns myself some time ago and that deck was already strong as it is , especially Judgment Dragon , I mean come on :Just having 4 different lightsworns in your grave and you are ready to nuke the field......

4 lightsworns in your grave for having Judgment dragon which is easy to draw because it's not limited and just win the game with nuking the field over and over and over......and over and over again.

It's simply an unfair card . (you can counter it though but in most games it's a win)

About the supports though :/  It's not like it need more of a specific kind , couldn't they ....I don't know create a new purpose for Lightsworns aside from summoning judgment dragon ?

And maybe limit that card ? I don't know, Lightsworns is an archetype easily accessed for new players with it's simple combos and strategy , I guess it's normal for new players to choose a deck like that to start with and then later experiment with Under rated or even original decks.

Though some cards are very handy in other decks :Like Lyla and Ryko are a perfect addition to Chaos decks or a deck focused on milling .

I never played with Bujjins myself so no comment on that.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:35 pm

LS are trash that rely on one card. Every player who has ever used them should be banned from yugioh.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:36 pm

Tbh JD isn't over powered, first off it can be easily milled and so you need a recovery card which slows down the deck a lot. Secondly with todays meta its kinda weak, hands or traps overpower it so easily. It is strong but LS need a good card like it, without him they would be very slow at otking. Moreover Bujings laugh at JD with hare and crane and Mermails are faster than LS. Even if you sack, you need to get a good mill so usually turn 1 is like a free be, turn 1 mermails are more consistent. And that's another thing LS have major consistency issues, you can draw a good hand sure but when you draw a bad hand, its pretty bad. The good hand you draw is usually on the more offensive side but todays meta just counters them. If JD was limited or banned LS would be ruined. They are good and sacky yes but they require set up which also can be stopped from a good side deck. the counters are insane, like LIM or crow, vanity-ruins them if they don't have lyla, soul drain, maxx c, veiler, thunder king, marco, dimensional fissure, good traps, and more.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:55 pm

This guy critisizes a deck he never played. JD is not invincible. You can easily pop it, mill it and banish it. In fact, you desperately need a first turn raiden, or else your opponet will run you over. need once it hits the grave, it's useless. You should play yu-gi-oh more, your lacking in knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:59 pm

You have no idea how hard it is to get four lightsworns in the grave. I win more with the dragon rulers i put in the deck.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:04 pm

When da fuck did I say Jd or lightsworns can stand up to fuckin mermails or any other meta deck. LS sack rely on dueling against non teir decks and getting that jd sack in. Unless u happen to have solemned or bottomless set JD will just nuke ur field them spam lightrays for otk. Plus you both are dum considering jd require little set up once u play solar recharge or magical merchant. Also project.knight your a bad duelist who could never defeat me. Also this post are about 2 archetypes that get nonstop support but dont deserve it.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:13 am

dont forget the lightrays
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:06 am

Duel me, so i ,may prove you wrong. You have no idea how lightsworns work. you don't even know how yugioh works. Since NOBODY has been playing LS these past month, they WILL NOT get hit with the ban-list and should not. Lightsworns are to SLOW.If you ever dueled one, you should know. But Bujins will get hit, eventually.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:16 pm

never said they should get hit by the ban list either, I said they need to stop getting new support cards every month. Instead of making card for an archetype only noobs like you use konami should spend time on making new archetypes or improving ones that people who aren't noobs use.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:28 pm

They are not getting support every month. pay attention.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:50 am

Light Imprisoning Mirror Magic and Trap Jammer Combo Is what'd I use Plus like i said before I LIKE playing aganst lightsworn though i have to agree with lelouch they should improve decks that need attention not Lightsworns.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:03 am

Lightsworns need to be retired. Like goddamn they had they run now let them rest and stop trying to makethem meta again. For those that dont know Jd was limited a while back and just recently got off the ban list. And any one who plays pure lightsworns is ass.
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PostSubject: Re: Archetypes that need to stop getting support   Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:40 am

Killua wrote:
Lightsworns need to be retired. Like goddamn they had they run now let them rest and stop trying to makethem meta again. For those that dont know Jd was limited a while back and just recently got off the ban list. And any one who plays pure lightsworns is ass.

Not everyone would be an ass playing them there only being an ass if A. They insist THEY know the rulings and B.if they continue to brag that there deck is the best because it getting more support
also it would help if they didn't use it as a main deck
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